Curse

Aussie AJMW · Jul 24, 2006, 10:46 AM // 10:46

i am sick to death of hearing the absolute BS of people who think there good because they can follow a build set up by someone else. all i hear is IM A RANK 6 ect ect well guess what its just a title. i have friend of the luxons and 86.2% explored. id like to hear some funny stories about this please

makosi · Jul 24, 2006, 10:57 AM // 10:57

Everyone and their Granny knows that the rank system is trash now because you can grind-farm fame and it doesn't directly represent your skills as a PvP-er. My monk has 17 million xp but thats because I grind-farm the Underworld. Same level of achievement imho. Don't let it get to you. Despite what the GW box says, it is a grinders game.

Ventius Hozza · Jul 24, 2006, 10:58 AM // 10:58

I'm nearly rank 8 and have 100% of tyria explored on one char, 100% of cantha explored on another.

funny isnt it?

there are a lot of experienced PvP players who actually know what they are doing. I think it's unfair to generalise and say that everyone is using the metagame (I put the words in your mouth, sorry)
when nobody is going to use a totally BS skillbar and expect to win.

It all depends on the player. Stop moaning.

Malice Black · Jul 24, 2006, 10:59 AM // 10:59

the point of this post is?

ppl follow a specific build because it works...if it works means you have a fair chance of winning

winning is the point of playing the game..

TheMadKingGeorge · Jul 24, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19

rank 8 spike oooh they better at counting than rank 4

Big_L · Jul 24, 2006, 12:33 PM // 12:33

I dont care how bad tombs degenerates into iway and spike. Its still harder than farming griffons or running around exploring.

makosi · Jul 24, 2006, 12:35 PM // 12:35

^ You've not seen me farm UW then

Rent · Jul 24, 2006, 12:36 PM // 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie AJMW

i am sick to death of hearing the absolute BS of people who think there good because they can follow a build set up by someone else. all i hear is IM A RANK 6 ect ect well guess what its just a title. i have friend of the luxons and 86.2% explored. id like to hear some funny stories about this please

Rank 6 takes quite a bit more time than map completion; though, to be fair, both are equally worthless at measuring your skill as a player.

Ventius Hozza · Jul 24, 2006, 02:06 PM // 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rent

Rank 6 takes quite a bit more time than map completion; though, to be fair, both are equally worthless at measuring your skill as a player.

It totally depends on how one achieves their rank.

Satai Katalya · Jul 24, 2006, 02:18 PM // 14:18

people are different, if your going to run around assuming things are the same then you dont get the point.
People are great players in different ways. Heck I probably suck in some regards to HA and in other situations quite well.
Too much bitching not enough fun being had.

cellardweller · Jul 24, 2006, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

winning is the point of playing the game..

oooohh thats where I've been going wrong, all this time I've been trying to have fun instead

forelli3600 · Jul 24, 2006, 02:25 PM // 14:25

Rank only indicates experience (maybe even not) and amount of unlocked skills and stuff.
But it has nothing to do with skills. If you play the same builds over and over you will not know how to play other things. In my gvg carreer I saw rank9 guests do the weirdest, stupidest things. Unbelievable

And this happened because they played the same builds in hoh over and voer and then they come in a gvg and don't know what to do.
If a rank 6 wants to farm fow for the first time he will be flamed at by his team.
So if you just play enough and work together every1 can be good in hoh or gvg or whatever.

lacasner · Jul 24, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26

Now that I think about it, what is the real barometer of who is more skilled than some1 else in this game? Lets look at it from a perspective title wise..

Rank:fame-farming is possible, so therefor it can always be assumed that this is how the player obtained their ranking.
Wisdom seeker/treasure:Absolutly does not show player skill.
Explorer:running around, or just fighting things in ur way
Lucky/unlucky:afk title
FoW armor:EBAYING NOOB!
Etc.. Etc.. it goes on, and there is no diffinitive way to tell who is better than some1 else. Guild wars might as well publicly admit that the game is a grinders game, even though they want to give the illusion its not.

dreamhunk · Jul 24, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20

another good reason rpg players will never ever get along with pvp players!

Ventius Hozza · Jul 24, 2006, 03:56 PM // 15:56

I knew titles would be a bad idea... -_-

Alleji · Jul 24, 2006, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMadKingGeorge

rank 8 spike oooh they better at counting than rank 4

You're either IWAYer or haven't played anything beyond RA at all, correct? Come back after you call any spike, learn to call targets, execute a specific strategy on relic runs, holding maps... hell, even just straight fights. Not to mention that every spike has a backline, or in some cases the spike IS the backline and you have to do two things at once.

And yes, we count better than rank 4's too. Thanks.

EDIT: Yes, rank can be farmed. "Grandmaster cartographer" means nothing, etc, etc, etc. For every title you can think up an argument that makes it meaningless in your head. But if you stop deluding yourself, you might realize that statistically, that rank 6 "farmer" will know more about PvP than a rank 0. Rank isn't an absolute, it's a guideline.

B Ephekt · Jul 24, 2006, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie AJMW

i am sick to death of hearing the absolute BS of people who think there good because they can follow a build set up by someone else. all i hear is IM A RANK 6 ect ect well guess what its just a title. i have friend of the luxons and 86.2% explored. id like to hear some funny stories about this please

This is BS, sorry. The skill comes from actually playing the build, whether you created it or not. Guild Wars is an old game and people have already figured out what works and what doesn't for the most part; people play what works because it's an effective way to win. The point of the "tournamanet" is to win, right? Stop crying...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rent

Rank 6 takes quite a bit more time than map completion; though, to be fair, both are equally worthless at measuring your skill as a player.

Rank is not an indication of a player's skill, it's an indication of their experience in HA. People want experienced players in their team so they can have a decent chance of winning. Not being at least rank 3+ means there is no way to show that you've even seen all the maps in the tournament, much less that you understand what to do on them.

eternal pho · Jul 24, 2006, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Rank all the time, doesn't mean ur good at that build...

axe · Jul 24, 2006, 04:16 PM // 16:16

People that complain about things are doing so for 2 reasons.

1) They cant get what they want so instead of trying to better themselves they imediately jump to the conclusion that its not skill that could beat them, so something must be wrong.

2) They truly know what they are talking about and something is out of whack.

#2 rarley happens.
If you want be better at pressing buttons than that guy with the tiger you have 2 choices. 1) learn how to grind. Or 2) put in some time like the people who actually do open cans on fools.

Either way you can get your tiger and earn 0 (thats Zero) respect from people who dont have a clue what it took to get that emote and likewise some pvpers dont know how much time and energy it takes to get pve titles, but the bottom line is, you wear your title because YOU are proud of it.

majoho · Jul 24, 2006, 04:17 PM // 16:17

I never had any rank and I never cared